Since you people are so determined on trying to discredit Scriptures and the existence of The Creator and Mashiah, let's see if you can back what
you say by proving it.
We already know it is impossible for you to try and prove the Creator does not exist, so we will skip that part, because it's a waste of our time trying to argue such a point with you. Besides that, there's a big difference between what you think and what you know.
If you say there is no Mighty One, Creator and Mashiah, prove it. Do your homework, and prove all of the following to not be real or actual historical facts. The more you might try to prove it false, the more you will find out it is very real. It will be at this point you have to choose to ignore the facts or concede to the truth of the matter.
Note: In the event there are videos provided as proof, you must watch the entire videos provided before attempting to provide evidence otherwise. The reason for this is to help you from making mistakes in presenting your evidence otherwise. When providing your evidence, it cannot be anything to the effect of "he said, she said or they said" and it must provide factual evidence, just like all three of the following do in showing factual evidence in the form of historical documents or physical evidence.
First of all, there are multitudes of historical evidence as written by many historians, both Christian and non-Christian, to which establishes the
Mashiah as a person who existed, and was crucified, not to mention the over 400 people who witnessed the Mashiah being alive after His crucifixion.
The #1 historian is known as Flavius Josephus
Wikipedia - Josephus
Flavius Josephus documented many things concerning the times of the Jewish wars and so on, having seen Jerusalem flattened as if it had never even existed.
Along with this, as mentioned in the wikipedia link provided above, The Testimonium Flavianum (meaning the testimony of Flavius Josephus) is a passage found in Book 18, Chapter 3, 3 (or see Greek text) of the Antiquities which describes the condemnation and crucifixion of Yahusha at the hands of the Roman authorities.
This can also include other historians as well as more current individuals such as legal investigators, law officers and so on who have done appropriate research and otherwise in order to establish if the words recorded in both the Scriptures and history are true.
It is a fact of history that this figure or person existed, known as the Mashiah.
There is also historical documentation of many of the people listed within the Scriptures having actually existed, but the focus here is the historical figure known as the Mashiah. In either case, the greatest book of history is the Scriptures, to which both agnostics and atheists try to make claims that it is just a fairy tail or whatever. Now you have to prove that claim!
When it comes to calendars, most of them start with the notation of BC and AD, or BCE, CE and such. It doesn't matter which are used, they ALL
acknowledge the same, in that there was a time before the Mashiah, and after His death at the crucifixion. This is also established by the calendar
year that is used to which starts at approximately right after the crucifixion in order to count down after that fact. If that were not considered
necessary, then more than likely the current year would show as 6007, which is still based on the Scriptures.
I guess you are going to go back thousands of years and make them stop using such notations now to establish your claims!
You know, there is a saying that goes like this... "Seeing is believing"
While there are hundreds of archeological finds concerning this issue and would become overwhelming, it will be kept simple just for your sake.
Let's start with the following items you now have to prove do not exist in order to make your claims valid...
(Many of the locations and references to events are still in existence today having been found or located based on archeological and Scriptural reference and research.)
Noah’s Ark location found
Walls of Jericho location found
Sodom and Gomorrah location found
Red Sea crossing location found
Rock that was split in two by Moses location found
Mount Sanai location found
Crucifixion site - Golgotha (place of the skull) location found
Tomb of the Mashiah location found
Blood found at the site and tested to be very rare and more
Shroud or Sudarium of Oviedo (cloth wrapped around the head at death)
Shroud of Turin (cloth wrapped around the body in the tomb) has been found to be scientifically accurate
This one is one that I recently found that is totally awesome, to which has also set the scientific community on end, because it completely destroys
scientific dating as it is known.
This is a video called Is Genesis History?
You should click the link and watch the entire video before making any assumptionos.
(Don't worry, I downloaded and have it saved it in case it gets removed because some may get upset due to this totally discrediting certain things.)
Here is yet another video that provides scientific evidence so simple that even a child can understand it.
Science confirms the Bible
You are probably going to hate this one, because it totally discredits one of the leading atheists. LOL
I have already mentioned that the Shroud of Turin has been found to be scientifically accurate in the previous section, but there is a video or two at the top of our video studies page you might want to check out.
I could go on, but I think you get the point with the videos and the scientific proof of the Shroud of Turin being mentioned also found on the video studies page.
It has come to my attention to the fact after repeatedly stating that it is impossible to win the above challenge, and no one sucessfully taking the
challenge and actually winning the challenge, that perhaps I should simplify it in order to make sure I am not overloading the person(s) attempting to
take such a challenge with what some have called to be a "gish-gallop" argument to which very few people can dismantle each and every point
in order to prove thier claims as such to win the challenge. This came to my attention when two individuals attempted to take the challenge and
obviously failed, and with also attempting to include other things the Scriptures spoke of that were not included in the challenge for my own other
reasons, and were not needed based on the three categories of evidence.
To be fair about this, it is for this reason I chose one item from each category since those three categories are the primary categories of almost all arguments put forth in an attempt to disprove the Scriptures, in order to create the following "simplified challenge".
You must prove all three items listed as false in order to claim a victory in your answer to this challenge.
Note; In the event there are videos provided as proof, you must watch the entire videos provided before attempting to provide evidence otherwise. The reason for this is to help you from making mistakes in presenting your evidence otherwise. When providing your evidence, it cannot be anything to the effect of "he said, she said or they said" and it must provide factual evidence, just like all three of the following do in showing factual evidence in the form of historical documents or physical evidence.
Category 1: Historical evidence
To this part of the challenge, you simply need to prove that this evidence does not exist even though the Name of ha'Mashiah Yahusha may have been changed. To better clarify, "ha'Mashiah" can be translated as "the Messiah", who prohesied that Yerushalayim (Jerusalem) would be destroyed and not one stone left upon another. The testimony of Flavius Josephus confirms after the Mashiah was nailed to the steak and impaled, having died that he confirmed that Yerushalayim (Jerusalem) was destroyed, as well as to having been destroyed as though it had not even existed. This is a testimony documented by a non-Christian or follower of Yahusha as being true. This can be considered as more "proof" to what is considered as "miracles" have happened, and can or will happen according to what the Scriptures speak of within it's writings. For further clarification, this proves the words of ha'Mashia, in Marqos (Defense) - Mark 13:2, and Luqas (Illuminating) - Luke 19:44.
The #1 historian is known as Flavius Josephus;
Source; Wikipedia - Josephus
Flavius Josephus documented many things concerning the times of the Jewish wars and so on, having seen Jerusalem flattened as if it had never even existed. Along with this, as mentioned in the wikipedia link provided above, The Testimonium Flavianum (meaning the testimony of Flavius Josephus) is a passage found in Book 18, Chapter 3, 3 (or see Greek text) of the Antiquities which describes the condemnation and crucifixion of Yahusha at the hands of the Roman authorities.
Category 2: Archeoligical evidence
This part of the challenge you simply have to prove that it does not exist, not including the evidence to the fact that even though it does prove that what may be considered as "miracles" as described within the Scriptures do happen and are very likely to be true. For clarification, this evidendence proves as described in Berĕshith (In the beginning) - Genesis 19:24, and Luqas (Illuminating) - Luke 17:29 did happen.
Sodom and Gomorrah location found
In this category, we can see video documentation confirming the story of Sodom and Gomorrah and the destruction of both cities or location as described within the Scriptures, which includes the location, the brimstone (balls of almost 100% pure sulphur), and both cities reduced to almost nothing but completely ashen remains, as well as being left barren to this very day. If you wish, you may do a video search for more evidence that could be included in this part, but the thought is that these two videos provided are sufficient to prove the point.
Sodom and Gomorrah PROOF
Shocking Discovery in SODOM & GOMORRAH
Category 3: Scientific Evidence
To this part of the challenge, you need to prove that the Shroud of Turin is fake, and was not tested and proven with both forensic and scientific evidence. This one is a double challenge, because the mention of the Shroud of Turin in the original challenge in the scientific evidence category qualifies this for use within the scientific evidence category of this simplified challenge. This evidence proves both that ha'Mashiah not only existed as proven in the Historical evidence, but was also was scourged, nailed to the steak, impaled, and more, according to what many Scriptures within the Word of YHWH testifies. We can skip the witnesses who had seen Him alive after the "crucifixion" because there were well over 400 people who had seen this, and they do not apply to this challenge since this part of the challenge deals with the physical evidence of the cloth that covered ha'Mashiah, and the forensic (a possible fourth category?) and scientific evidence.
In this category, we can see video documentation confirming the Shroud of Turin exists, and was tested in both a forensic and scientific manner in an attempt to prove whether or not it is actually authentic, and not a fake item.
New Forensic Evidence Validates The Shroud Of Turin And The Resurrection Of The Person In It
I have recieved a report from one individual that this video was unable to be viewed, to which is very questionable considering it is hosted on this website, and has been tested to work several times.
In the event that this video is actually unable to be viewed by you, it can also be found at this location;
New Forensic Evidence Validates The Shroud Of Turin And The Resurrection Of The Person In It -Location 2
In closing for this simplified challenge, you may skip reviewing the evidence and concede to the evidence provided as being true, thereby accepting that the Scriptures are real, (to which we already know they are real since they have existed for thousands of years), and that they are historically, arecheologically, scientifically (as well as forensically) proven to be true. If you do not wish to skip all this and condcede to the evidence provided, you must then prove all three pieces of evidence to be false in order to "win" this challenge. As I have stated before, it is impossible to win the challenge, so you must therefore accept the truth, or cease to being truthful. It is my wish for you to accpt the truth and follow after what the Word of YHWH teaches, that you are called, and accpet that calling to follow after Him and find that "narrow path" that few find.
You have been given some examples of historical, archeological, and scientific proof. Keep in mind this is only a few examples, as there are hundreds
more. When you build a house on sand and a massive storm comes, don't expect it to still be standing when all is said and done. It's kind of hard to
imagine where you are standing at this point when you have no real foundation for your claims, and this is not meant in any condescending manner. It is
just something that calls for a firm foundation to what you speak of. Please reconsider your position on this matter, because if there is even the
slightest possibility that what you claim is true, then you have lost nothing. If what the Scriptures say is true, you will lose everything by refusing
to accept the truth.
As it has been said by another, "When a man or woman is honestly mistaken and hears the truth, they will either stop being mistaken or cease to be honest".